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Old 08-25-04, 08:10 PM
Steve
file become unaccessible after moving
After moving  a file (doc, xls qpd, wpd) with windows
explorer the file becomes unaccessible. When I try to
open the file I get the error message "can not access
read only file" This file was not a read only file to
start with. I check the properties and it is not listed
as a read only file. I click the yes button to open as
read only then I get a second popup that says "access
denied". The file is now not accessible by any program.

How can I gain access to these 60 some odd files and what
do I need to do to stop it from happening again?

Thanks
Steve
  #2  
Old 08-25-04, 08:10 PM
Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
Re: file become unaccessible after moving
This sounds like a file ownership issue related to NTFS.  Note, file
ownership and permissions supersede administrator rights. How you resolve
it depends upon which version of XP you are running.

XP-Home

Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard wired for "Simple File
Sharing" at system level.

However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode. Reboot, and start
hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of the
options is Safe Mode. Select it. Note, it will ask for the administrator's
password. This is not your administrator account, rather it is the
machine's administrator account for which users are asked to create a
password during setup.

If you created no such password, when requested, leave blank and press
enter.

Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the view tab, scroll to
the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File Sharing" deselect it
and click apply and ok. If it shows nothing or won't let you make a change,
move on to the next step.

Navigate to the files, right click, select properties, go to the Security
tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the user that was logged
on when you were refused permission to access the files. Click apply and
ok. Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and type in the name of
the user you just enabled. If you wish to set ownership for everything in
the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the following selection:
"Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it as well.

Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish with these files when
you log back on as that user.

XP-Pro

If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited account to
administrative. First, go to Windows Explorer, go to Tools, select Folder
Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File Sharing" is not
selected. If it is, deselect it and click apply and ok.

If you wish everything in a specific folder to be accessible to a user,
right click the folder, select properties, go to the Security tab, click
Advanced, go to the Owner tab,
select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom of the box, you
should see a check box for "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects,"
place a check in the box and click apply and ok.

The user should now be able to perform necessary functions on files in the
folder even as a limited account. If not, make it an admin account again,
right click the folder, select Properties, go to the Security tab and be
sure the user is listed in the user list. If not, click add and type the
user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has all the necessary
permissions checked in the permission list below the user list, click apply
and ok.

That should do it and allow whatever access you desire for that folder even
in a limited account.



--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"Steve" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:011f01c48ad8$84c664e0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> After moving a file (doc, xls qpd, wpd) with windows
> explorer the file becomes unaccessible. When I try to
> open the file I get the error message "can not access
> read only file" This file was not a read only file to
> start with. I check the properties and it is not listed
> as a read only file. I click the yes button to open as
> read only then I get a second popup that says "access
> denied". The file is now not accessible by any program.
>
> How can I gain access to these 60 some odd files and what
> do I need to do to stop it from happening again?
>
> Thanks
> Steve



  #3  
Old 08-27-04, 08:09 PM
Steve
Re: file become unaccessible after moving
Thanks Mike

I just tryed that and it still gives me the error
message 'can not access read-only
document "libraryxx.xls"'

I then click "OK" and the next error messsage displayed
is 'can not access "libraryxx.xls"'

Any other ideas?

Steve

>-----Original Message-----
>This sounds like a file ownership issue related to

NTFS. Note, file
>ownership and permissions supersede administrator

rights. How you resolve
>it depends upon which version of XP you are running.
>
>XP-Home
>
>Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard

wired for "Simple File
>Sharing" at system level.
>
>However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode.

Reboot, and start
>hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of

the
>options is Safe Mode. Select it. Note, it will ask for

the administrator's
>password. This is not your administrator account,

rather it is the
>machine's administrator account for which users are

asked to create a
>password during setup.
>
>If you created no such password, when requested, leave

blank and press
>enter.
>
>Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the

view tab, scroll to
>the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File

Sharing" deselect it
>and click apply and ok. If it shows nothing or won't

let you make a change,
>move on to the next step.
>
>Navigate to the files, right click, select properties,

go to the Security
>tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the

user that was logged
>on when you were refused permission to access the

files. Click apply and
>ok. Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and

type in the name of
>the user you just enabled. If you wish to set ownership

for everything in
>the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the

following selection:
>"Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it

as well.
>
>Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish

with these files when
>you log back on as that user.
>
>XP-Pro
>
>If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited

account to
>administrative. First, go to Windows Explorer, go to

Tools, select Folder
>Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File

Sharing" is not
>selected. If it is, deselect it and click apply and ok.
>
>If you wish everything in a specific folder to be

accessible to a user,
>right click the folder, select properties, go to the

Security tab, click
>Advanced, go to the Owner tab,
>select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom

of the box, you
>should see a check box for "Replace owner on

subcontainers and objects,"
>place a check in the box and click apply and ok.
>
>The user should now be able to perform necessary

functions on files in the
>folder even as a limited account. If not, make it an

admin account again,
>right click the folder, select Properties, go to the

Security tab and be
>sure the user is listed in the user list. If not, click

add and type the
>user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has

all the necessary
>permissions checked in the permission list below the

user list, click apply
>and ok.
>
>That should do it and allow whatever access you desire

for that folder even
>in a limited account.
>
>
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
>"Steve" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

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  #4  
Old 08-27-04, 08:10 PM
Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
Re: file become unaccessible after moving
I'm not sure what else could cause this type of issue.  If you are moving
these files to CD-R disks, it would make sense. Then, it would just be a
case of needing to copy such a file back to the hard drive in order to
access that version of the file. However, if you are moving the file from
one location to another on your hard drive, I'm not sure what else might
cause such an issue.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"Steve" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:191801c48c7e$9c95afc0$a601280a@phx.gbl...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks Mike
>
> I just tryed that and it still gives me the error
> message 'can not access read-only
> document "libraryxx.xls"'
>
> I then click "OK" and the next error messsage displayed
> is 'can not access "libraryxx.xls"'
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Steve
>
> NTFS. Note, file
> rights. How you resolve
> wired for "Simple File
> Reboot, and start
> the
> the administrator's
> rather it is the
> asked to create a
> blank and press
> view tab, scroll to
> Sharing" deselect it
> let you make a change,
> go to the Security
> user that was logged
> files. Click apply and
> type in the name of
> for everything in
> following selection:
> as well.
> with these files when
> account to
> Tools, select Folder
> Sharing" is not
> accessible to a user,
> Security tab, click
> of the box, you
> subcontainers and objects,"
> functions on files in the
> admin account again,
> Security tab and be
> add and type the
> all the necessary
> user list, click apply
> for that folder even
> message
> listed
> program.
> what


  #5  
Old 08-27-04, 08:10 PM
Re: file become unaccessible after moving
I'm am moving from one sub directory in my document to
another in my documents.

They are in "my document/bids" and i moved them to "my
document/udot" I have tryed to move them back but they
are still not accessible

Steve

>-----Original Message-----
>I'm not sure what else could cause this type of issue.

If you are moving
>these files to CD-R disks, it would make sense. Then,

it would just be a
>case of needing to copy such a file back to the hard

drive in order to
>access that version of the file. However, if you are

moving the file from
>one location to another on your hard drive, I'm not sure

what else might
>cause such an issue.
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
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  #6  
Old 08-27-04, 08:10 PM
Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
Re: file become unaccessible after moving
When you ran the steps to take ownership, did you just do the sub-folder or
did you start at the My Documents level and include the option to make the
change for all sub-folders as well. If you did it only at the level of the
subfolder, I would start at a higher level of the folder hierarchy, My
Documents, instead of simply at the level of the subfolder. It's possible
the master folder's rights are superseding the rights of the subfolder, at
least for these files.

Another possibility would be if the sub-folder is encrypted. If this is an
encrypted folder, that might be the issue.

If the first paragraph doesn't work and the second paragraph doesn't apply,
you might try taking this question to the windowsxp.security_admin newsgroup
as they might be able to figure out what's wrong and how to deal with it.
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1b8701c48c85$254c1a60$a301280a@phx.gbl...[vbcol=seagreen]
> I'm am moving from one sub directory in my document to
> another in my documents.
>
> They are in "my document/bids" and i moved them to "my
> document/udot" I have tryed to move them back but they
> are still not accessible
>
> Steve
>
> If you are moving
> it would just be a
> drive in order to
> moving the file from
> what else might
> message
> for
> ownership
> File
> ok.
> click
> to
> to
> as


 


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