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Old 07-08-04, 04:56 AM
CReWdog CReWdog is offline
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HP 1210 all in one - can only print using administrator account
Hi.
I'm new to this forum & hope someone can help with my problem.
I'm rumming an e-macines p.c. with Windows Xp home. I have an HP1210 all in one printer connected to the p.c by a USB cable. There are 3 accounts set up, 1 administrator account & 2 limited accounts (for me & the wife). My problem - I can only print when logged on using the administrator account. When I try to print using either my own or the wifes limited account, nothing prints. No error messages appear on the screen & the lights on the printer do not flash or anything.
I read an article on the HP website (go to http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...dlc=en&lang=en) Step 2 says "In Windows 2000 and XP, you must have Administrator or Power User level access to the computer to use the all-in-one drivers to print. To change permissions levels, do one of the following..."
I followed the instructions to change the change the security level of all of the files in the WinNT\System32 folder to give everyone access but I still can't print using a user account.
I found some more info regarding file sharing on http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xpperm/xpPerm1.htm & followed these instructions about setting up file sharing permissions. The system32 folder is now a "shared" folder, supposedly giving everyone who uses the computer full control, but the printer is still not playing.
Any help regarding a solution for this would be greatly appreciated. I know it seems like a trivial problem but it is a pain logging out & back in just to print something & I dont like the idea of using the admininistrator account for ANYTHING other than installing software etc.
Questions:
Have I found the correct folder to apply the shared permissions to? (The system32 folder contains references to hp drivers, but are they the right ones for the printer I have, as I dont know exactly what they are called I have no idea where to look for them)
Is there another driver that would work for this printer?
Why have HP marketed a product that cannot easily be used without having to mess around like this ("In Windows 2000 and XP, you must have Administrator or Power User level access to the computer to use the all-in-one drivers to print")?
Is what I'm trying to do here possible? (Print from a limited account in XP home using this printer)
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Old 09-04-04, 12:53 AM
CReWdog CReWdog is offline
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Re: HP 1210 all in one - can only print using administrator account
Quote:
Originally posted by CReWdog
Hi.
I'm new to this forum & hope someone can help with my problem.
I'm rumming an e-macines p.c. with Windows Xp home. I have an HP1210 all in one printer connected to the p.c by a USB cable. There are 3 accounts set up, 1 administrator account & 2 limited accounts (for me & the wife). My problem - I can only print when logged on using the administrator account. When I try to print using either my own or the wifes limited account, nothing prints. No error messages appear on the screen & the lights on the printer do not flash or anything.
I read an article on the HP website (go to http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...dlc=en&lang=en) Step 2 says "In Windows 2000 and XP, you must have Administrator or Power User level access to the computer to use the all-in-one drivers to print. To change permissions levels, do one of the following..."
I followed the instructions to change the change the security level of all of the files in the WinNT\System32 folder to give everyone access but I still can't print using a user account.
I found some more info regarding file sharing on http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xpperm/xpPerm1.htm & followed these instructions about setting up file sharing permissions. The system32 folder is now a "shared" folder, supposedly giving everyone who uses the computer full control, but the printer is still not playing.
Any help regarding a solution for this would be greatly appreciated. I know it seems like a trivial problem but it is a pain logging out & back in just to print something & I dont like the idea of using the admininistrator account for ANYTHING other than installing software etc.
Questions:
Have I found the correct folder to apply the shared permissions to? (The system32 folder contains references to hp drivers, but are they the right ones for the printer I have, as I dont know exactly what they are called I have no idea where to look for them)
Is there another driver that would work for this printer?
Why have HP marketed a product that cannot easily be used without having to mess around like this ("In Windows 2000 and XP, you must have Administrator or Power User level access to the computer to use the all-in-one drivers to print")?
Is what I'm trying to do here possible? (Print from a limited account in XP home using this printer)
Hello again

Sorry to keep banging on about this... but I've found an error message in the event viewer after the printer fails to print. Any help greatly appreciated.

Regards

CReWdog
  #3  
Old 09-04-04, 07:10 PM
Bruce Sanderson
Re: HP 1210 all in one - can only print using administrator account
What is the content of the Event Log entry you see?
You can copy the content of Event Log entries into a post by:
Open Event Viewer
Double click on the Event Log entry of interest
Click the button that looks two overlapping printed pages (below the up and
down arrows near the top right). This copies the Event Log entry to the
Clipboard
right click in the post you are composing and select Paste

As to "why does HP ..." that's a very good question, but only HP can answer
that one!

Granting the Everyone group Full Control on the System32 folder defeats a
good part of the Windows XP systems ability to protect itself against
accidental damage. I think this is bad advice on the part of HP.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.


"CReWdog" <CReWdog.1c1x01@mail.mcse.ms> wrote in message
news:CReWdog.1c1x01@mail.mcse.ms...
>
> CReWdog wrote:
>
> Hello again
>
> Sorry to keep banging on about this... but I've found an error message
> in the event viewer after the printer fails to print. Any help greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> CReWdog
>
>
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> | Attachment filename: print error.doc |
> |Download attachment: http://www.mcse.ms/attachment.php?postid=2674457 |
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
>
>
> --
> CReWdog
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted via http://www.mcse.ms
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message840551.html
>



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Old 09-09-04, 07:14 AM
CReWdog CReWdog is offline
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Re: Re: HP 1210 all in one - can only print using administrator account
Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Sanderson
What is the content of the Event Log entry you see?
You can copy the content of Event Log entries into a post by:
Open Event Viewer
Double click on the Event Log entry of interest
Click the button that looks two overlapping printed pages (below the up and
down arrows near the top right). This copies the Event Log entry to the
Clipboard
right click in the post you are composing and select Paste

As to "why does HP ..." that's a very good question, but only HP can answer
that one!

Granting the Everyone group Full Control on the System32 folder defeats a
good part of the Windows XP systems ability to protect itself against
accidental damage. I think this is bad advice on the part of HP.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.


"CReWdog" <CReWdog.1c1x01@mail.mcse.ms> wrote in message
news:CReWdog.1c1x01@mail.mcse.ms...
>
> CReWdog wrote:
>
> Hello again
>
> Sorry to keep banging on about this... but I've found an error message
> in the event viewer after the printer fails to print. Any help greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> CReWdog
>
>
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> | Attachment filename: print error.doc |
> |Download attachment: http://www.mcse.ms/attachment.php?postid=2674457 |
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
>
>
> --
> CReWdog
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted via http://www.mcse.ms
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message840551.html
>
Hi Bruce.

Error message was attached to original thread as a word document ( I just screen dumped the boxes containing the message & saved as I didn't know about the clipboard feature.)

Regards
CReWdog
  #5  
Old 09-17-04, 10:08 PM
Bruce Sanderson
Re: HP 1210 all in one - can only print using administrator account
These newsgroups are intended to be text only and attachments are
discouraged. I tried to get access to the attachment using the links you
provided, but are not able to do so (I don't have an account on the mcse
site and don't particularly want to).

If you want me to pursue this some more, please post the event log entry by
pasting it into a post as I described.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.


"CReWdog" <CReWdog.1cbn05@mail.mcse.ms> wrote in message
news:CReWdog.1cbn05@mail.mcse.ms...
>
> Bruce Sanderson wrote:
>
> Hi Bruce.
>
> Error message was attached to original thread as a word document ( I
> just screen dumped the boxes containing the message & saved as I didn't
> know about the clipboard feature.)
>
> Regards
> CReWdog
>
>
>
> --
> CReWdog
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted via http://www.mcse.ms
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message840551.html
>



 


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