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Old 03-28-04, 04:18 AM
Kaylene aka Taurarian
Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against


I have attempted to locate what the problem is but have been unable to find it.
I have ran online virus scans, spybot, stinger, adaware etc.

Have ran the Welchia removal tools.

Cannot find any reference to this at all. Nortons Firewall is picking up the
intrusion. NIS 2004
WinXP Operating System.


  #2  
Old 03-28-04, 10:19 AM
Bruce Chambers
Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
Greetings --

Are you sure of the wording of that message? Other than the
phrase "from your machine against," it sounds like NIS is warning you
of an attack on your machine.

Have you checked Task Manager to see if any of the Svchost.exe
incidents is using an unusually high number of CPU cycles? (Welchia
highjacks Svchost to send out its payload, partially because Svchost
would most likely already have been given permission to connect to the
Internet.)

Have you tried Symantec's Welchia Removal tool, just on general
principles?
http://securityresponse.symantec.com...oval.tool.html


Bruce Chambers

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"Kaylene aka Taurarian" <taurarian@REMOVE_CAPS_hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
>
>
> I have attempted to locate what the problem is but have been unable
> to find it.
> I have ran online virus scans, spybot, stinger, adaware etc.
>
> Have ran the Welchia removal tools.
>
> Cannot find any reference to this at all. Nortons Firewall is
> picking up the
> intrusion. NIS 2004
> WinXP Operating System.
>
>



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Old 03-28-04, 05:48 PM
deirdre1952 deirdre1952 is offline
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
I've had this happen twice, once yesterday, once today. I'm using Norton Personal Firewall 2003, Windows ME. Have also run all scans, nothing found. Symantec has no information. I found this thread via Google. 

I can tell you that the attacked IP in both incidents I've had was a Yahoo IP, and that after each incident I was disconnected from Yahoo Messenger.

Firewall log entry:

Intrusion: Welchia_ICMP_Scan.
Intruder: (MY COMPUTER NAME AND IP)
Risk Level: High.
Protocol: ICMP.
Attacked IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.
Details: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx was detected and blocked.

It *looks* to me (not a puter wizard) like the Welchia trojan infected me and is using me to attack Yahoo. But all virus scans etc. turned up nothing. Also, I checked with DShield and my IP address isn't registered as a bad guy.

ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THIS?
Thanks,
Deirdre


Quote:
Originally posted by Kaylene aka Taurarian
Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against


I have attempted to locate what the problem is but have been unable to find it.
I have ran online virus scans, spybot, stinger, adaware etc.

Have ran the Welchia removal tools.

Cannot find any reference to this at all. Nortons Firewall is picking up the
intrusion. NIS 2004
WinXP Operating System.
  #4  
Old 03-28-04, 07:04 PM
joffa joffa is offline
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
I have just started experiencing exactly the same thing over the last 48 hours. NIS is telling me about the intrusion (and blocking it)   

Like others, I found this link through Googgle (the only link available)
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Old 03-28-04, 08:59 PM
joffa joffa is offline
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
I have just started experiencing exactly the same thing over the last 48 hours. NIS is telling me about the intrusion (and blocking it)   

Like others, I found this link through Googgle (the only link available)
  #6  
Old 03-28-04, 09:20 PM
Taurarian
Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
Hi Bruce, it was my machine allegedly doing the
attacking. First thing I checked was the Task Manager.
Use the Welchia removal tool etc.
On line scans from different anti virus companies etc.
Everything came up clean.

Tracked it down to a false intrusion report "keep
connection alive" was the culprit. It was pinging sites
in my favourites and was being interpreted as an attack.

Only happened after a live update on the Norton's site.

Kaylene

>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings --
>
> Are you sure of the wording of that message? Other

than the
>phrase "from your machine against," it sounds like NIS

is warning you
>of an attack on your machine.
>
> Have you checked Task Manager to see if any of the

Svchost.exe
>incidents is using an unusually high number of CPU

cycles? (Welchia
>highjacks Svchost to send out its payload, partially

because Svchost
>would most likely already have been given permission to

connect to the
>Internet.)
>
> Have you tried Symantec's Welchia Removal tool, just

on general
>principles?
>http://securityresponse.symantec.com...er/venc/data/w

32.welchia.worm.removal.tool.html
>
>
>Bruce Chambers
>
>--
>Help us help you:
>http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't

ever count on
>having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
>"Kaylene aka Taurarian"

<taurarian@REMOVE_CAPS_hotmail.com> wrote in[color=blue]
>message news:eDPZUKKFEHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
machine against[color=blue]
have been unable[color=blue]
adaware etc.[color=blue]
Firewall is
>
>
>.
>

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Old 03-28-04, 09:20 PM
Taurarian
Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
At least I wasn't the only one then - started after a
recent update from Nortons Live Scan.
My problem was the "Keep connection alive" pinging the
sites in my favorites and being reported as an intrusion.
Everything came up clean with the scans, online virus
scans etc, removal tools - nothing came up. Everything
was clean.

>-----Original Message-----
>
>I have just started experiencing exactly the same thing

over the last 48
>hours. NIS is telling me about the intrusion (and

blocking it)
>
>Like others, I found this link through Googgle (the

only link
>available)
>
>
>
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>joffa
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Old 03-28-04, 11:10 PM
deirdre1952 deirdre1952 is offline
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Re: Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
I checked, and my "Connection Keep Alive" has NOT been enabled. Unless it's been doing it on the sly, this problem is stemming from something else. I am curious to know if the others with this problem had "Connection Keep Alive" enabled or disabled during this time.
Deirdre

Quote:
Originally posted by Taurarian
At least I wasn't the only one then - started after a
recent update from Nortons Live Scan.
My problem was the "Keep connection alive" pinging the
sites in my favorites and being reported as an intrusion.
Everything came up clean with the scans, online virus
scans etc, removal tools - nothing came up. Everything
was clean.

>-----Original Message-----
>
>I have just started experiencing exactly the same thing

over the last 48
>hours. NIS is telling me about the intrusion (and

blocking it)
>
>Like others, I found this link through Googgle (the

only link
>available)
>
>
>
>--
>joffa
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  #9  
Old 03-29-04, 01:18 AM
Taurarian
Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
Deirdre
Your situation sounds different from mine as I was never
disconnected during the attacks and the attacks were
constant, have you tried the symantec removal tool
mentioned in Bruce's posting? Wouldn't hurt to check out
the symantec site about the Welchia worm so you can check
the registry etc. to see if you are in fact clean.

Did you do an online virus scan?

Wouldn't hurt to look for malaware/spyware etc - like
spybot seek & destroy for one (don't have links here). I
even tried Stinger!! - I was desperate.




>-----Original Message-----
>
>I've had this happen twice, once yesterday, once today.

I'm using Norton
>Personal Firewall 2003, Windows ME. Have also run all

scans, nothing
>found. Symantec has no information. I found this thread

via Google.
>
>I can tell you that the attacked IP in both incidents

I've had was a
>Yahoo IP, and that after each incident I was

disconnected from Yahoo
>Messenger.
>
>Firewall log entry:
>
>Intrusion: Welchia_ICMP_Scan.
>Intruder: (MY COMPUTER NAME AND IP)
>Risk Level: High.
>Protocol: ICMP.
>Attacked IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.
>Details: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from

your machine
>against xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx was detected and blocked.
>
>It *looks* to me (not a puter wizard) like the Welchia

trojan infected
>me and is using me to attack Yahoo. But all virus scans

etc. turned up
>nothing. Also, I checked with DShield and my IP address

isn't[color=blue]
>registered as a bad guy.
>
>ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THIS?
>Thanks,
>Deirdre
>
>
>Kaylene aka Taurarian wrote:
machine against[color=blue]
have been unable[color=blue]
adaware etc.[color=blue]
Firewall is picking
>
>
>
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>deirdre1952
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  #10  
Old 03-29-04, 01:23 PM
rowem rowem is offline
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Re: Re: Attempted Intrusion "Welchia_ICMP_Scan" from your machine against
I have been experiencing the same difficulties since 26Mar04. I cant prove it, but I believe the problem began after downloading the latest update for Office.

My antivirus and firewall protection is always as up to date as possibe (Norton/Symantec etc) and I have downloaded the Welchia removal tool as others have, but cannot kill the worm.

I noticed that all the intruder attacks were from a specific IP address and reported this as "abuse" to BTOpenworld 4 days ago but they have not replied to my complaint.

What confuses me, is that Norton Personal Firewall statisics says I have not been attacked, but the Intrusion Detection log is recoding an attack every 2 seconds.

I have tried enabling and also disabling Keep Connection Alive and I dont think this makes any difference.

Any advice would be welcome.
 


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