Hello,



We've just installed our HTPC under MCE and everything works like a charm

except for the TV channel settings. Unfortunately, we live in a country

where MS has not yet made any agreements with TV distributors : Belgium.

Therefore, the TV guide feature doesn't work, which is already a very big

dissapointment but OK, I guess they will wake up, somehow, someway....



The real issue I have is with setting and storing the TV channels. When he's

doing a scan of the channels, 2/3 of them are found correctly with the right

name. The other third is found too but called unknown. 2 or 3 channels are

also found plus, the frequency needs to be tuned a bit, as the tuning is not

optimal and indeed, the frequency he stored is not exactly the right one.



Does someone know :

a) how to rename the channels ?

b) how to modify the frequency used ?



Thanks in advance.

Patricia

"Patricia" <patricia.pen.grandschtroumpf@easynet.Be> wrote in message

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> We've just installed our HTPC under MCE and everything works like a charm

> except for the TV channel settings. Unfortunately, we live in a country

> where MS has not yet made any agreements with TV distributors : Belgium.

> Therefore, the TV guide feature doesn't work, which is already a very big

> dissapointment but OK, I guess they will wake up, somehow, someway....



What stations do you have in Belgium? I imagine you typically receive some

French, and maybe some Dutch and German stations over there? You could try

setting up MCE for the Netherlands and get a mix of stations from those

countries. Then you would only be missing your domestic Belgium stations...



> The real issue I have is with setting and storing the TV channels.

> When he's doing a scan of the channels, 2/3 of them are found correctly

> with the right name. The other third is found too but called unknown.



The MCE 2005 scan tries to identify stations by their Teletext, and not all

stations transmit proper identification that way...



> 2 or 3 channels are also found plus, the frequency needs to be tuned a

> bit, as the tuning is not optimal and indeed, the frequency he stored

> is not exactly the right one.

>

> Does someone know :

> a) how to rename the channels ?



The only way to change the name of a channel in MCE 2005 is by assigning a

guide listing to it, then it gets the name of the guide listing. If you

don't have any guide available for a channel, there is no way to edit its

name, unfortunately.



> b) how to modify the frequency used ?



Take a look at \Windows\ehome\MCETuningOverrides.xml (can be viewed in

Internet Explorer). It contains the frequency tables e.g. for the

Netherlands cable. Depending on the region you are using in MCE (which

influences what type of guide data you can get, so first choose the region

which gives you the most guide data you can use), select the matching

frequency table and edit it (e.g. in Notepad). This will require some XML

skills, but even if you're not familiar with XML, it is not too complicated

to figure out just by looking at the file. Reboot to put the changed XML

file into effect. This file is not covered by Windows File Protection, so

you can modify it without Windows complaining about it. Do make a backup

copy of the original file first, though.



Regards,«

--

Robert Schlabbach

e-mail: robert_s@gmx.net

Berlin, Germany

"Robert Schlabbach" <robert_s@gmx.net> wrote in message

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> "Patricia" <patricia.pen.grandschtroumpf@easynet.Be> wrote in message

> news:eARB0ExzEHA.1932@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... 

>

> What stations do you have in Belgium? I imagine you typically receive some

> French, and maybe some Dutch and German stations over there? You could try

> setting up MCE for the Netherlands and get a mix of stations from those

> countries. Then you would only be missing your domestic Belgium

> stations...

> 

>

> The MCE 2005 scan tries to identify stations by their Teletext, and not

> all

> stations transmit proper identification that way...

> 

>

> The only way to change the name of a channel in MCE 2005 is by assigning a

> guide listing to it, then it gets the name of the guide listing. If you

> don't have any guide available for a channel, there is no way to edit its

> name, unfortunately.

> 

>

> Take a look at \Windows\ehome\MCETuningOverrides.xml (can be viewed in

> Internet Explorer). It contains the frequency tables e.g. for the

> Netherlands cable. Depending on the region you are using in MCE (which

> influences what type of guide data you can get, so first choose the region

> which gives you the most guide data you can use), select the matching

> frequency table and edit it (e.g. in Notepad). This will require some XML

> skills, but even if you're not familiar with XML, it is not too

> complicated

> to figure out just by looking at the file. Reboot to put the changed XML

> file into effect. This file is not covered by Windows File Protection, so

> you can modify it without Windows complaining about it. Do make a backup

> copy of the original file first, though.

>

> Regards,«

> --

> Robert Schlabbach

> e-mail: robert_s@gmx.net

> Berlin, Germany

>

>

Hi Robert,



Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, I have no guide available at all.

He did scan most of the channels available though. I've tried to edit the

file you mentionned but this does not seem to have any impact at all. When I

change a frequency in the file, there is absolutely no effect. This file

looks more like a log of the channels he scanned. The information must be

stored elsewhere. Do you have any idea ? Maybe registry ? Or do you know if

there are alternative progies to edit the channel structure ?



I greatly appreciate your help. It's not easy to enjoy MCE when MS does not

support it in your country, which is between us, quite dumb !



Many thanks.

Patricia

"Patricia" <patricia.pen.grandschtroumpf@easynet.Be> wrote in message

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> Thanks for the information. Unfortunately,

> I have no guide available at all.



Select Germany as the region, enter 00000 as the postal code and select

"Allgemeine Senderliste der Kabelnetze - analog". That'll give you guide

data for the major German stations, as well as some French and Dutch ones.



> He did scan most of the channels available though. I've tried to edit

> the file you mentionned but this does not seem to have any impact at

> all. When I change a frequency in the file, there is absolutely no

effect.

> This file looks more like a log of the channels he scanned. The

information

> must be stored elsewhere.



Nope, this is definitely *not* a log file, it *is* the Tuning Overrides

(why else would it be named like that)? But you must be absolutely sure you

edit the frequencies for the country and reception type you select in Media

Center...



> Do you have any idea ? Maybe registry ? Or do you know if

> there are alternative progies to edit the channel structure ?



Hmm, do you have a list of the frequencies used in your cable(?) network?

I'd like to know what frequencies are used in Belgium.



> I greatly appreciate your help. It's not easy to enjoy MCE when MS

> does not support it in your country, which is between us, quite dumb!



It's a question of cost. Guide data doesn't come for free, naturally, and

Microsoft starts with those markets the potential revenues of which justify

the investment. Now Belgium is a rather small country and thus not on top

of that list...



Regards,«

--

Robert Schlabbach

e-mail: robert_s@gmx.net

Berlin, Germany

	
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We understand this...but why there is no possibility to enter and edit channels names?

Look at http://mceguider.oabsoftware.nl/index.php, install the Guider, and

you will be able to do what you are looking for.

Note: forget the Germany setting, pick Netherlands, they have their own PGE

which include some of the channels we have in Belgium.  I've still have some

errors with the Guide, but at least I have all the channels correctly named.



"roddy20" wrote:



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> Robert Schlabbach wrote: 

>

> We understand this...but why there is no possibility to enter and edit

> channels names?

>

>

>

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Hi,

I would like to add new frequency in my lists but I live in Italy and I

don't know if this utility functions also for analog and dvb-t signals? (not

from cable).



Someone can help me?



Thank you very much

Walter



"manu" wrote:

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> Look at http://mceguider.oabsoftware.nl/index.php, install the Guider, and

> you will be able to do what you are looking for.

> Note: forget the Germany setting, pick Netherlands, they have their own PGE

> which include some of the channels we have in Belgium.  I've still have some

> errors with the Guide, but at least I have all the channels correctly named.

>

> "roddy20" wrote:

> 

Hi Walter, I have the same problem , how did you resolve it?

Thanks Luca



"Walter" wrote:

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> Hi,

> I would like to add new frequency in my lists but I live in Italy and I

> don't know if this utility functions also for analog and dvb-t signals? (not

> from cable).

>

> Someone can help me?

>

> Thank you very much

> Walter

>

> "manu" wrote:

> 

hi, manu,



i install MCE guider, successed, but when i restore my old config find only

find 1 channel service(change reginoal to UK and scan more service, even

re-config media center), per my memory ,i remember i have 60 channel. i also

try uninstall mce guider and no help, my old config lost, what can i do?

re-install mce2005 or others, please help me. thanks



"manu" wrote:

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> Look at http://mceguider.oabsoftware.nl/index.php, install the Guider, and

> you will be able to do what you are looking for.

> Note: forget the Germany setting, pick Netherlands, they have their own PGE

> which include some of the channels we have in Belgium.  I've still have some

> errors with the Guide, but at least I have all the channels correctly named.

>

> "roddy20" wrote:

>