Re: Windows 98SE fatal exception errors

[Ed]

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I have the same problem. It started to occur after I did the windows
updates. I haven't located which update causes it, but at boot-up, the
computer gives the BSOD with the FE message and then sits at the login screen
frozen. It will boot up in safe mode and sometimes a reboot will fix it for
a day.

"Ron Martell" wrote:

> 1stsgt <lawia@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> What happens after the error? Are the machines usable or do they lock
> up or fail to function in some way?
>
> Does the same error happen when you boot the machines in Safe Mode?
>
> Did you make any changes to the workstations in terms of updating
> application software or hardware drivers just prior to the onset of
> this problem?
>
> Fatal Exception 0E errors in the 0028:xxxxxxxx address range are
> sometimes associated with video driver problems, but that would
> normally not affect 5 machines simultaneously unless they all have the
> same video cards and all had driver updates at the same time.
>
> Try this on one of the machines as a test:
>
> Boot that computer to "Command prompt only" or with a Windows 98
> Startup Disk; then run the following command:
>
> SCANREG /RESTORE
>
> Choose the most recent registry backup that is prior to the onset of
> this problem and see what happens with that machine when you reboot
> normally.
>
> Good luck
>
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP
> On-Line Help Computer Service
> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> "The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

something

Restart in Safe Mode, go to Add/Remove Programs, and uninstall
"KB891711". Restart. The KB891711 patch (Security Bulletin MS05-004) has
caused many people this same problem. MS is working on it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Ed" <Ed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I have the same problem. It started to occur after I did the windows
> updates. I haven't located which update causes it, but at boot-up,
the
> computer gives the BSOD with the FE message and then sits at the login
screen
> frozen. It will boot up in safe mode and sometimes a reboot will fix
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> a day.
>
> "Ron Martell" wrote:
>
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[Alan Edwards]

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Try disabling the recent one that causes some people trouble, KB891711
You can disable it from starting in Msconfig.
(Start-Run-MSCONFIG-Startup tab)

You may care to look at all the recent posts in this group and the Win
ME group about KB891711.

....Alan

--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "Ed"
<Ed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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>I have the same problem. It started to occur after I did the windows
>updates. I haven't located which update causes it, but at boot-up, the
>computer gives the BSOD with the FE message and then sits at the login screen
>frozen. It will boot up in safe mode and sometimes a reboot will fix it for
>a day.
>
>"Ron Martell" wrote:
>

[Ed]

something

I have checked computers here that are running win98 w/o problems for their
updates compared to the ones having problems. I uninstalled the updates that
were not common to both. However, that did not solve the problem. I found
that disabling the soundcards seems to be a solution, but I need to be able
to use the sound.

"Alan Edwards" wrote:

> Try disabling the recent one that causes some people trouble, KB891711
> You can disable it from starting in Msconfig.
> (Start-Run-MSCONFIG-Startup tab)
>
> You may care to look at all the recent posts in this group and the Win
> ME group about KB891711.
>
> ....Alan
>
> --
> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
> In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "Ed"
> <Ed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

something

But did you uninstall KB891711 on the problem machine(s)? That *is* the
update causing this problem, and it doesn't cause it on all computers,
just some. Suggest you reinstall all Critical updates and uninstall
KB891711 on any machines that have this problem.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Ed" <Ed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I have checked computers here that are running win98 w/o problems for
their
> updates compared to the ones having problems. I uninstalled the
updates that
> were not common to both. However, that did not solve the problem. I
found
> that disabling the soundcards seems to be a solution, but I need to be
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> to use the sound.
>
> "Alan Edwards" wrote:
>
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[Ed]

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That update is not installed. I uninstalled all updates on the machine and
it still didn't boot. I finally went into the registry in safe mode and
deleted the BDA and WDM streaming entries from
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\mediainterfa ces. It booted fine after
that. I have to go back now and reinstall updates. I had also removed the
soundcard from Device Manager. It reinstalled and worked fine. Do you know
where those files (BDA and WDM streaming) come from?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> But did you uninstall KB891711 on the problem machine(s)? That *is* the
> update causing this problem, and it doesn't cause it on all computers,
> just some. Suggest you reinstall all Critical updates and uninstall
> KB891711 on any machines that have this problem.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Ed" <Ed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7343E77A-D870-4BDD-A3BF-8F0A48E51928@microsoft.com...
> their
> updates that
> found
> able
> KB891711
> Win
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> the
> login screen
> fix it for
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> much."
>
>

[Gary S. Terhune]

something

BDA and WDM are methods for steaming multimedia. What made you decide on
that remedy?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Ed" <Ed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:92BC528F-EC1B-4671-9701-9E7C2022DE32@microsoft.com...
> That update is not installed. I uninstalled all updates on the
machine and
> it still didn't boot. I finally went into the registry in safe mode
and
> deleted the BDA and WDM streaming entries from
> HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\mediainterfa ces. It booted fine
after
> that. I have to go back now and reinstall updates. I had also
removed the
> soundcard from Device Manager. It reinstalled and worked fine. Do
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> where those files (BDA and WDM streaming) come from?
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
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[Ed]

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The first time I had the problem, I noticed the drivers for them in the
Device Manager along with the sound card drivers. They were new, so I
figured they were the culprit. When I removed them, the computer would boot
fine. The problem is, on some computers, they kept coming back or
reinstalling. I disabled the sound card, but on this one computer, nothing
worked until I removed the registry entries. I still have a couple of
computers that won't boot that don't have these drivers in the DevMan, but I
haven't checked the registry yet. I only thought to do that on the other
machine because I was in the registry looking for the MS update KB891711. I
haven't checked for it on those machines either.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> BDA and WDM are methods for steaming multimedia. What made you decide on
> that remedy?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Ed" <Ed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:92BC528F-EC1B-4671-9701-9E7C2022DE32@microsoft.com...
> machine and
> and
> after
> removed the
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> the
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